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Identity and Face Book

Kaliya Young · June 25, 2007 · 2 Comments

I have been in facebook a while. Jordan Moncharmont who works at Facebook and is a student at Stanford invited me into the network after Ruby on Rails Camp. I just didn’t get it at all. What was the difference between a note, a message a wall message a poke? It just seemed silly to me but I knew it was all socially contextual and relevant to the kids using it. I ‘felt old’ because I didn’t understand the tools (now I know how ‘normal people feel’ I thought when I show them all my tools).
So a month ago at CFP (Computers Freedom and Privacy). I took the opportunity to meet up with some of the women that I was on the Canadian National Waterpolo Team with.
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They were both on facebook – wow I thought this is going mainstream. Apparently the Ontario Government had to block access to Facebook for employees it was going that mainstream.
So two weeks ago I started getting all sorts of friend request from folks in the tech community. So I dove in. Shortly there after my best friend from Grade 4 and 5 found me. ‘Hey did you used to be Kaliya Young?’ she asked – “yes” (I changed my name on the system to my current full legal name Kaliya Young Hamlin so that all my friends from my life in school know it is me). I also wondered if my sister would have a profile…SHE DID! Something is really going on with this platform.
I invited lots of folks in my google address book cause I could easily. This included Dennis Hamilton.

Today, I received a Facebook friend invitation from Kaliya Hamlin, Identity Woman. Oh oh, this is getting serious. I’m honored and touched that Kaliya would invite me. I figure it is time to pay attention and see how Facebook might fit into our mutual interest in identity topics.

Well as a matter of fact it does.
There is the OpenID group
the Digital Identity Group and
the Identity Gang of Identity Commons.
So far I like most things about it. I like presence updates from people. It gives me a sense of what people are upto, thinking about etc. this is the same reason people like twitter (I am not on twitter cause 1) my phone doesn’t do outgoing txt. 2) I can’t figure out how to get it to work with my IM Client)
I like that they opened up to other developers. Many people are building interesting applications. I don’t like that only 6 of them can show in my side toolbar without me clicking on the ‘more’ button.
I enjoy sending messages because it makes the whole conversation with you and the other person threaded.
Dennis has some concerns. (however he just posted a presence message this morning so I know he is using it daily still).
It is a Silo. – sure but people can build all sorts of stuff on it.
What will be interesting to see is how groups move about cyberspace – none of us is loyal to any of these platforms more then gamers are loyal to ‘a game’ they are loyal to the social groups that they play with. Raph Koster pointed this out at Supernova. We are loyal to the groups we do work with and socialize.
My what if is – What to do about those people who asked to be your friends who you don’t want to be friends with? Or that you don’t know at all? I am not sure. They get stuck in friend request purgatory? This could use some improvement.
danah boyd has written an essay about class divisions emerging between different social networks and the use by young people.

The goodie two shoes, jocks, athletes, or other “good” kids are now going to Facebook. These kids tend to come from families who emphasize education and going to college. They are part of what we’d call hegemonic society. They are primarily white, but not exclusively. They are in honors classes, looking forward to the prom, and live in a world dictated by after school activities.
MySpace is still home for Latino/Hispanic teens, immigrant teens, “burnouts,” “alternative kids,” “art fags,” punks, emos, goths, gangstas, queer kids, and other kids who didn’t play into the dominant high school popularity paradigm. These are kids whose parents didn’t go to college, who are expected to get a job when they finish high school. Teens who are really into music or in a band are on MySpace. MySpace has most of the kids who are socially ostracized at school because they are geeks, freaks, or queers.

Class divisions in military use
A month ago, the military banned MySpace but not Facebook. This was a very interesting move because there’s a division, even in the military. Soldiers are on MySpace; officers are on Facebook. Facebook is extremely popular in the military, but it’s not the SNS of choice for 18-year old soldiers, a group that is primarily from poorer, less educated communities. They are using MySpace. The officers, many of whom have already received college training, are using Facebook. The military ban appears to replicate the class divisions that exist throughout the military. I can’t help but wonder if the reason for this goes beyond the purported concerns that those in the military are leaking information or spending too much time online or soaking up too much bandwidth with their MySpace usage.

The whole essay is very good. She writes at the end about her worries for teenagers today.

Identity Panel at Mix07

Kaliya Young · May 1, 2007 · Leave a Comment

We had a great panel at Mix07 Microsoft’s Developers Conference. It was moderated by Marc Canter, with Kim Cameron, Scott Kveton and myself.
We opened with a context setting presentation (up on slideshare) that I put together to help get us started.
Marc hammered the point home that Single-Sign-On was not ‘enough’ we all agreed.
We talked about security issues and how CardSpace was one option to address the challenge of phishing.
We talked about how Authentication (SSO) was different then data sharing and how we need to figure out how people connect data between different sessions.
I said we needed “myAPI” so that we could let people conntect their data and not give away their username and password to connect stuff up (like they have to do today).
Marc said that the IIW was just a talk fest that he would not go to. I pointed out that the IOS in Brussels last week OpenID and ID-WSF
Marc criticized Facebook for the terms that they release face-book data under saying it could not be shown to anyone except Facebook members. The Facebook guy stood up and said that he was misinterpreting the meaning of it – what it really said was that if a user had certain people who could see different things those preferences needed to be respected.
Marc got down on his knees and apologized while singing the end of an aria – it was very entertaining.
We also got to hear about Sharks and Toasters. Many people are afraid of sharks but more people die every year because from using a toaster but no one is afraid of toasters.
Over all it was a great session. Thanks to all who participated.

Google Data Privacy Called for:

Kaliya Young · January 24, 2007 · Leave a Comment

Jamais blogs about this post from Fred House via Hawk Wings

I think I need a new Google product to drop into beta. That would be, let’s see, Google Data Privacy. GDP would allow me to review all of the information that Google retains on me across all services, from all devices, and from all sources. GDP would allow me to determine the maximum data retention period for each of my services. GDP would allow me to selectively opt out of cross-service data mining & correlation, even if it reduced the quality of the services I receive. GDP would allow me to correct any inaccurate data in my profile. And GDP would log and alert me when my data was queried by other services.
I want my Google Data Privacy.

Google knows where you are….

Kaliya Young · October 18, 2006 · Leave a Comment

Google is extending and integrating DodgeBall with its other services. Chris Mesina writes about it. Why should people be forced into integrating their accounts because one of the big silo’s buys them. People really don’t want to do that. Perhaps their DodgeBall persona is really different then their one for sharing spreadsheets with work colleagues. I think consumers are going to demand more choice in how they manage their online selves (personas) and that the companies that respond well will be rewarded in the market.

Don’t say I didn’t warn you, but now when you try to log into your favorite neighborhood spyware, you’ll be greeted by a prompt to login with either your old skool Dodgeball account credentials or your Gauth account (the one that you use for Docs, Gmail, Gcal, Orkut, or other Google Services like YouTube (whoops — did I just say YouTube?).
Should you choose to login with your Dodgeball account, you’ll then be asked what your Gauth account is… again… or to create a new one. I chose to eff it and just merge my accounts (hoping that there’s an export of my checkins to Google Earth). Now I can manage Dodgeball from Google (note the last service):

David Geilhufe's Drupal response

Kaliya Young · October 12, 2006 · Leave a Comment

I wrote in my post about DreamForce conference about SalesForce.com that I met.

Khadijah from MassCOSH (the Massachusets Coalition for Ocupational Saftey and Health). She had a great story of frustration that speaks to the reality…she went with Drupal and and was optimistic about the potential of the platform but was totally disappointed by the tool and the ability to MAKE IT WORK well for her organizational context. As she said we are hoping this group of 19 year old developers will improve the platform…Well the fact is they haven’t really done it and disappointed a lot of folks. (I had high hopes too invested some money in customizing it for my constituents..but it never really got there). She was like SalesForce saved my ass. It is so good and I can get my 8 staff who need to use it to use it. She believes in open source still but needs it to work now…SalesForce solves that problem.

I like David Geilhufe and all that I have heard good things about CiviCRM a project he founded. I have heard developers I trust say “it is one of the best run open source projects I have ever seen.” He moved over from that project to CivicSpace and I have some hope that the fire an be stoked so the dream can be a reality.

The dream of “19 year old developers” meeting the needs of 1M+ nonprofits and a far greater number of civic and political groups is over. Now there are real companies, seasoned leaders, senior developers and private capital backing the dream.
CivicSpace reorganized in May That is why we now have CivicSpace On Demand in BETA. No downloads, no need to understand MySQL and Apache, just a focus on making complex open source work for regular people.
And that is why you will see us slowly stoke the fire that is the dream over the next years… highly affordable, nonprofit-centric open source solutions delivered by a sustainable ecology. The perfect solution isn’t here today. But with a community of supporters, a pretty great open source solution will be here tomorrow.
David Geilhufe
Managing Partner, CivicSpace

DreamForce, Office 2.0 and Seattle This Week

Kaliya Young · October 7, 2006 · Leave a Comment

This is going to be a fun week. I was up at Iovation the last week of September. They invited Placial and JanRain over to talk Identity at the end of my day with them. They are integrating OpenID into one of the products they are showing at DreamForce. This inspired me to go and check out the show. I applied for a Press Pass and got one (I guess the dig bloggers)…the best part of this whole story was that on the application I listed my Title: Super Hero and Company: Identity Woman.
Dick Hardt is also talking there on Monday in the IT Executive Track. This is the description of the talk:

Identity 2.0 and Salesforce
When thinking of identity and salesforce.com, several things come to mind: users logging into salesforce.com; the customer data stored in the application; and customers logging into the self service portal. Learn how all three of these are related with the emerging Internet Identity Infrastructure known as Identity 2.0, as well as what salesforce.com customers are doing today in identity management.

On Wednesday I will be Talking at Office 2.0 on a panel about open standards. I had the dubious honor of being the original ‘only woman’ speaking (out of 54) until the women bloggers had a little uproar about that. Now there are 7 on the program.
Thursday I am heading up to Seattle to meet with Cordance and other Seattle business. I will be there all weekend and returning on Tuesday the 17th. I am open to coalescing a dinner in Seattle if there is demand. E-mail me to let me know.

Gmail is working again.

Kaliya Young · August 8, 2006 · Leave a Comment

My plea for help got some responses and some how by clearing the cache and restarting my computer I was once again able to access Gmail.
Thanks for your help!

Help! – I can't get to Gmail

Kaliya Young · August 6, 2006 · Leave a Comment

I have no idea what is going on.
I have not been able for the past 2 days get to gmail. That is right. I put in the URL http://mail.google.com and it just sits there spinning….basically forever – 10+min. Never going to the site…never saying 404. I don’t get it. I asked someone yesturday if there were able to get there. They said they had checked there account lately. I am totally mystified. I need to get mailings out about the OpenID thing on Thursday but I can’t get to my account. It is very frustrating. If anyone knows what is going on and can tell me I would be appreciative. (To comment you actually need to ‘login’ which is hard to find on my blog it is up in the righthand corner.)

IM interoperability one step closer

Kaliya Young · July 13, 2006 · Leave a Comment

This was big news for IM identities. Yahoo! and MSFT Messanger will be working towards interoperability with Beta testing beginning. Tech Crunch Comments on this development.

Flickr Photo Fun – Identity and Attribution.

Kaliya Young · June 11, 2006 · Leave a Comment

My faith in humanity was re-affirmed today at VloggerCon I am surfing around while listening to the ‘net neutrality session.’ I found that the anarchitect had used a Flickr Photo I posted of a community garden in NYC. I love Flickr and the power of sharing (it is nice to get credit for it).

DRM Elimination Crews will descend on Apple Stores June 10

Kaliya Young · June 5, 2006 · Leave a Comment

My Friend Gregory Heller and company founded Defective by Design to ‘fight’ the scourge of DRM plaguing the land. June 10th will be their next ‘day of action’ descending on Apple stors in NYC, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle and Plano to warn apple costomers of the dangers of DMR in iTunes Apple Software. If you want to join in you can join the movement here…

Full disclosure – I have an nano ipod. I never buy music on their store because of the DRM (your music is no good in like 5 generations). I don’t really buy music at all or copy it. If I did I would by CDS from Amazon based on my Pandora favorites list and burn the music into my hard-drive DRM free. The one thing I have bought is two Sarah Vowell books 5 hours and 7 hours each. I figured they were worth the cost and hastle of DRM. I am a huge fan of hers. Other then these rare exceptions I have totally avoided DRM.

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The more I learn about them the less I trust them

Kaliya Young · May 11, 2006 · Leave a Comment

I just read this article about Microsoft sales strategy. It is SO disturbing. Kim is great but the rest of them? Why should we think about even considering trusting them? It still baffles me.

There is no power in sessions at Mix06

Kaliya Young · March 20, 2006 · Leave a Comment

Apparently MS seems to think we are about 5 yrs ahead of time using 10 hour fuel cell batteries or something in our laptops.
There are literally NO power bar outlets in the seating area of the entire 1300 person auditorium for keynotes. The walls on either side are ‘flexiwalls’ so no power from them. There is one outlet with two plugs in this main hall. In the breakout session rooms there are a couple outlets at the back. I went and asked why they didn’t have plugs and they were like we have wifi. I was like “power cord plugs” they were like oh?
Scoble (who was part of organizing this) – you would think that they would meet peoples power needs. Heck they have seat beanbags with Mix embroidered on them. One thing they get right even if the wifi isn’t working is that there is power.

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To MS we are just customers

Kaliya Young · March 20, 2006 · Leave a Comment

It seems to me that their language regarding those of us who use their stuff – customers. Individuals who buy stuff most notably not creators.
All the people who come to your website are coming there to ‘do business with you’ according to the browser guy. Not to join, participate, cooperate, create, etc.

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ETel Amsoft did great

Kaliya Young · January 26, 2006 · Leave a Comment

Ajay did a great job presenting Celibrate yesterday at etel the XRI/XDI based service from Amsoft. It generated a lot of good buzz.

Digital Identity 'performance' by college kids

Kaliya Young · September 12, 2005 · Leave a Comment

Danah Boyde has a great post about Face Book – (an online social network only for those how are in college.) This paragraph really stood out for me because it highlights the social phenomena that those of us who typically work in digitial identity do not really ‘do’ – DIGITAL IDENTITY PERFORMANCE…

The Facebook is situated in a culture with a set of known practices and needs, helping students make sense of their universe and constantly changing social networks. Even the issues around performative profiles are dampened because college students are so engrossed in digital identity performance as a process of figuring out who they are. Between MySpace and The Facebook, teens are now growing up assuming social network tools and building the value into them but most adults have no interest; herein lies another age division that will certainly affect the future of technology use.

She also wonders about how the practices emerging in these educational facebooks can perhaps be picked up by corporate ones to make them more effective.

Unfortunately, in the corporate culture, tools are being built to only reflect a fraction of the networking practices – they are poorly aligned and dreadfully unflexible. It’s funny though – every big company tends to have a facebook of sorts – reporting charts, roles, seat assignments. What if those could grow to indicate projects and past cooperations between colleagues? What if non-salesman could articulate their relationships to people in other companies rather than having them uncomfortably sussed out via email? What if social networking tools were built into the already existing corporate framework? What would it mean to make the corporate facebooks more useful?

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