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IC and Data Portability

Kaliya Young · March 9, 2008 · Leave a Comment

Here are some question asked in a recent conversation on the dataportability.org lists about IC along with my responses.
Maybe the Identity commons should be trying to set boundaries as being purely about identity?

An “open identity layer” that touches so much and there needs to be a “common space” to nash through the vastness of the problem – to deal with the technical, social and legal issues around people sharing their information in community and business contexts. We have this ultra extensible form and broad purpose to enable this to happen – there is “no committee in charge” no “one” or “company” or “group” is deciding what we “do” – we are a loose conglomeration that shares vision and values. Working independently but connectedly and commited to collaboration. It It is an ‘unconventional’ model that that is working to supposed and connect diverse conversations and technical efforts together.
Can we instead resolve that we promise to incorporate any decisions made by Identity commons as being part of our blueprint?

There are no “decisions made by Identity Commons” read our principles – we are a cluster of working groups that work independently.
Your blueprint (as a side note why there is still ‘one blueprint’ and not ‘blueprints’ plural at the very least or preferably ‘reference implementations’ in the plural form is still a mystery to me) will likely draw on tech stuff groups in IC have been working on for a while. Why not be a part of the ‘commons’ that they are a part of?
My perception of IDCommons is that it’s about Identity, and in your words, interoperable user-centric identity.
Most of the people who have been involved for the past several years got involved to help people have control of their ‘data’ – their identity the informatoin about them is part of what composes their identity. they didn’t get involved to ‘invent’ an identifier layer that didn’t “do” anything
I see DataPortability being about data sharing (in a technical sense)Identity is clearly a very important part of that but I don’t see much at all on IDCommons about data sharing. It’s as though DP has a wider scope of which IDCommons is a major part.
The exceptions to this view are

  • Identity Schemas group
  • Photo Group
  • Data Sharing group

None of which seem to have much activity.
* OpenID has attribute exchange and Discovery in it – all about data sharing.
* Higgins & Bandit and the Pamela project ALL about infrastructure for card based tools that are all about data sharing for people.
* Project VRM all about how to create a new industry model to revolutionaize CRM and put individuals in charge of their data in radical new ways when relating to companies they do business with.
* I-brokers – their job is to stor data about people and have it be trusted.
* IRA – Identity Rights Agreements – all about how we create human understandable terms of service and norms in this area (it is a huge project and has interested folks but really needs a multi hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal work to ‘do it’).
* XRI and XDI two standards with roots in IC all about data sharing that can be applied to both peoples personal data and other forms of data that have nothing to do with people.
* OSIS is the Open Source Identity System and having its 3rd Interop event at RSA (The major security conference) in April with over 200 tests between relying parties, identity providers and (user-agents) card selectors. this group is ‘only’ a working group of IC (it does not have its own independent legal entity/or affiliation with another one as a project). People moving data around is what all this card stuff is about.
So. I am not sure where we have groups that are not in some way focused on this problem area.
DP is just the latest in a long line of initiatives that recognises the same underlying problem but none of the previous initiatives have captured mind share or really got traction.

Our goal is not to ‘capture [public] mind share’ (does the W3C, OASIS or IETF capture public mind share?) our goal is to facilitate the range of technical, social and legal initiatives that all need to happen to get and identity layer of the web – that shares people’s data in privacy protecing, conveninent and under their control. It is a huge problem – with many elements – having a loose community structure (with a slight bit of formalization) is actually working in some way to move this forward.
I think we’d be missing a lot if we scoped DP as a specialization of an “open identity layer”.
What do you think moving peoples personal information arournd – data portability is about. It is about building an ‘identity layer’ of the internet – for people and people’s DATA.
Chris has said a few times the scope of DP is to be narrow for now and focused on solving the data portability issue between mainstream social networks. This seems like something that fits into the purpose quite well.
Yes all data for all things needs to be moved around AND a good deal of data is created by people for people about people and the things the they do – hence the synergy.
Seems like semanitcs – when we wrote this purpose about two years ago this was the best we could do to describe this ‘vision’ it is VERY broad.
If DP wants to go beyond ‘people’ data that needs to move around GREAT – however much of that will be created by organizations and companies (that have identities).
Related Posts: What is Data Portability.org
What the Heck is Identity Commons?

DONE! The IC Working Groups 2007 Q4 Reports and January News

Kaliya Young · February 3, 2008 · Leave a Comment

This past week the Identity Commons Working Groups 2007 Q4 Reports and January News were published. I worked in my catalytic role to get all the Stewards of the 8 groups of IC to turn in their reports. There is also news from many of the soon to be IC working groups.
This is the post from the Identity Commons Blog. It is where you should subscribe to get updates from the different working groups at IC. They will be using it to post announcements and information about what they are up to. We have our next stewards call this Wednesday at 9am PST.

PDF of Identity Commons Working Group 2007 Q4 Report and January News
Introduction:
Identity Commons (IC)is a loosely connected community of Working Groups that are addressing the social, legal and technical issues that arise with the emerging identity layer of the internet. The purpose of Identity Commons is to support, facilitate, and promote the creation of an open identity layer for the Internet — one that maximizes control, convenience, and privacy for the individual while encouraging the development of healthy, interoperable communities.
A wide range of individuals from both large and small companies have been dialoguing and developing tools to make this vision a reality. This past year the community was formalized, forming a nonprofit corporation. Identity Commons has adopted a set of principals to ensure an open, inclusive, and bottoms-up operating structure. Each Working Group has a representative on the Stewards Council. Membership resides in the Working Groups – where the real work is happening. Each quarter Working Groups report on their activities. This was our first quarter of official operation with reporting Q4 2007. There is also news from groups in the process of joining Identity Commons included.
Contents:

Current Working Groups
Community & Events
Identity Gang
Internet Identity Workshop
Technology
OSIS (Open Source Identity System)
OpenID
Identity Schemas
Social Agreements and Policy
Identity Rights Agreements
XRI Org
ID Commons Operations
IC Collaborative Tools
In Process to Join Identity Commons:
Business Application

VRV (Vendor Relationship Management)

Open Source Code Projects for Identity Systems and Data Sharing
Higgins Project
Bandit Project
Pamela Project
Groups related to Standards
SAML Commons
XDI Commons
Newly Formed

Enterprise Positioning
Enterprise Identity Architects
Newbies 4 Newbies
Inclusive Initiatives
Id Futures
Id Media Review
You can find more background information about IC here and a moreindepth history here

Identity Commons Wiki Care and Feeding

Kaliya Young · January 21, 2008 · Leave a Comment

The Identity Commons Wiki has pretty much all been moved over from the old to the new wiki. I did what I think are the last 6 major pages today.
There are a few that could use some attention from the community to improve their content.
EVENTS.
What are the upcoming conferences this spring and summer that cover identity. Feel free to add past events – the ones you spoke at should be here.
THE NEWS ARCHIVE
There are no events in 2007 – which was an exciting year for identity. So if folks would like to contribute the stories they thought were big – just a few people entering one each would do.
REFERENCE WORKS:
It has papers related to concepts, principles and background related to user-centric identity along with Law Policy and Society. Please add papers that you use/know to be references for the field.
Johannes did a great job of pulling the landscape together
The Protocols Technology section needs some information in it (it is blank).
Thanks for taking the time to help out filling in the details – this is what helps outsiders figure out what is going on in this space.
Next week we will have our first Newbies 4 Newbies call. They will need these to be more complete to help develop the Starting Points page to help with orientation.

Identity Gang Meeting in NYC

Kaliya Young · January 21, 2008 · Leave a Comment

I am headed to NYC to facilitate the Online Community Unconference East. While there I thought it would make sense to have a meetup about Identity Commons and all the stuff happening in the community.
Ryan Jenssen reached out to me this week about community developments and contributing. We chatted back and forth and he agreed to have the event at his offices – at Angel Soft. I think we should have drinks starting at 6:15 dinner at 7 and presentation(s) at 7:30 for 1/2 an hour then lots of mingling.
Identity Gang – Social for Identity Commons
Feb 19th at 6:15 – dinner at 7:00 $10 fee.
Please RSVP on Upcoming or e-mail me if you don’t want to do that.
Should be a great opportunity to meet other NYers involved in the community and ask all the questions you want about the community efforts, OpenID, Higgins, OSIS, Bandit, Pamela Project.

On Openness and the Open Social Network

Kaliya Young · January 16, 2008 · 1 Comment

Many years ago when I first me the guys doing “user-centric identity” – way back in the day in 2002-2003 – yes there were people talking about thinking about and exploring the implications of interoperable social networks BEFORE Friendster “happened.” I clearly remember a conversation I had with Owen Davis (one of the original founders of Identity Commons v1) about how if there really was to be an identity layer of the web that would work for people – that “the people” would need to be involved in making it happen. They explored really experimental ideas for organizational forms thinking about how to give membership for all those who had identities in the system. They had a recursive membership problem. Needed members didn’t have any couldn’t decide who was members…..sort of crazy making.

Owen always highlighting the importance of the conversations about the social network and identity portability being open so that a wide range of view points and considerations can be a part of making it real.

I remember this often when we put on our gatherings Internet Identity Workshop and the Data Sharing Summit – I worry that we don’t have a broad enough spectrum of humanity in the room to get it right. We just founded Inclusive Initiatives at this last IIW (it got applaud from the whole audience when we announced it) to focus providing opportunities to learn about, engage with and include a wider range of people with needs from and identity layer we haven’t got in the mix yet. We are having our first conference call on Monday or Tuesday.
It is not just about hackers hacking up some code. Code is “Law” and it also in the realms of people and their information about relationship it is the “social fabric”. People are participating in multiple contexts with very different norms. It is important that there is sensitivity to peoples needs that these not all merge together. The post before this one is an essay that I wrote last year for Web 2.0 Expo. It highlights some of the complexities found in the social nature of identity – and personally identifying information.
Bob recently said this in a post about opening the social graph:

My Burton Group colleague Mike Neuenschwander is fond of saying that our generation is using computer geeks – the least social people on the planet – to design social systems. This is the kind of thing he’s talking about.
Opening the social graph will destroy social networks, and turn them into sterile public spaces in which formation of meaningful and intimate relationships is not possible. Opening the social graph is a bad idea. Relationship information is not the property of individuals – it held in joint custody among all parties in a relationship, and it cannot be used or disclosed in violation of the rules under which it was brought into the relationship – or else the relationship will die and the individuals in it will be harmed. If you don’t understand this, or come to understand it, you will never have any real relationships, and neither will the software you write.

I don’t necessarily agree that computer geeks are the “least social folks” (I quite enjoy socializing with you). I do think it is true that computer geek social culture does not reflect the diversity of human culture in this world that this social layer of the internet must be inclusive of if it is to be successful.
Ben Laurie Makes this point in response to Bob’s Post:

when I share social data, I do so under certain conditions, both explicit and implict. What I care about, really, is that those conditions continue to be met. I don’t really mind who does the enforcing, so long as it is enforced. So, it seems to me that its OK to create the social graph, you just have to be exceedingly careful what you do with it.
This presents two, in my view, enormous technical challenges. The first is dealing with a variety of different conditions applying to different parts of the graph. Even representing what those conditions are in any usable way is a huge task but then you also need to figure out how to combine them, both when multiple conditions apply to the same piece of data (for example, because you figured it out twice in different ways) or when the combination of various pieces of data, each with its own conditions, yield something new.
Once you’ve done that you are faced with a much larger problem: working out what the implicit conditions were and enforcing those, too. The huge adverse reaction we saw to Facebook’s Beacon feature shows that such implicit conditions can be unobvious.

I do think it is pain in the butt to ‘re-invite’ my friends – are there ways to ‘re-invite them’ but not via e-mail? – are there ways to leverage the work that Liberty Alliance has done on the People Services Spec. from what I could discern from presentations I have seen it has promise to meet the needs articulated.
One way to deal with the issues I talked about regarding multiple contexts is to actually make the concept of Limited Liability Persona’s.
No doubt people need to be able to look at their whole social graph – who are all the people I am connected to – my address book and get information about them and the contexts I share with them. This does not mean i have one public open social graph.
This is what some of the original graphics of the Social Physics project communicated was their goal.

Looking in the Way Back Machine I found this American Revolution 2 from 2004 …quite inspiring it begins.

Today we are not full citizens of the Web. We have no effective voice in how our digital selves are captured, stored, represented, bought and sold. In short we have no voice in how that most precious and precarious aspects of ourselves, – our multiple digital identities- are governed.

Social Physics – all those concepts and understandings of how identities for people work across multiple contexts is all being woven into the Higgins Project (at Eclipse). Participants in developing this framework (and other working code relevant to the problem) are noticeably absent from the upcoming invitation only gathering on the subject of the Social Graph.
Higgins IS:

• Higgins enables the use of the card metaphor to support a consistent mechanism for authentication across all devices/platforms
• Higgins enables diffusion of this metaphor by providing toolkits for implementation of IdP’s and RP
• Higgins Solutions (made up of Higgins components) can be used to implement this new highly connected world.
• The Identity Attribute Service Solution makes it easier to build applications that leverage identity information from multiple sources (with the appropriate privacy controls of course.)
• Because Higgins is open source, it makes diffusion easier.

Yeah it has taken a while. It also takes a while to build infrastructure in the real world at has the potential to scale to internet size.
I figured out how to think about what ‘infrastructure is in internet realm’ around the time the i-name registry opened in the summer – it took so long cause it is like building a major bridge. I watch the bridge they are building over the Bay grow – it has guys working on it all the time – I watch it grow bit by bit when I ride the bus. It is SLOW but it happens and when it does you have a great highway to go over the water (rather then alternative forms – a boat, or how about an the current decaying earthquake prone span).
One of the reasons I (and the whole community) have worked so hard to create open accessible events like the Internet Identity Workshop and the Data Sharing Summit it that this layer and the issues are to important not to be dealt with in open fora. Those who want to be there to participate and help out to tackle the tough questions – to be free to put forward their ideas, solutions and working code. You know Open Source like. There is always someone interesting who shows up – you didn’t know who contributes something great.

Identity Commons is open, inclusive, and bottoms-up, and all of us abide by a set of principles to help assure this. We provide a minimal structure for supporting community activities, and we hold space for the entire community to collaborate.

The vision of an Open Social Network – one working on open standards that really empowers people AND balances the tension between individuals and the communities they are in is one I am passionate about. I wouldn’t have spent the last 4 years of my life working on building a community to focus on these issues.

The purpose of Identity Commons is to support, facilitate, and promote the creation of an open identity layer for the Internet — one that maximizes control, convenience, and privacy for the individual while encouraging the development of healthy, interoperable communities.

Please join us in figuring this challenge out. Many of us have put a lot of work into getting to where we are now and there is a long way to go. As Bob said Gerry said after IIW in December “We reached the end of the beginning.” This is evidenced by efforts like Dataportability.org popping up building on the foundations we have laid.
Our next IIW is May 12-14 in Mountain View again. They are a lot of fun please join us. I hope we can have a Data Sharing Summit before that and hopefully some other open outcome focused collaborative events around other aspects needed to make this all more of a reality.
(if you want to comment please just e-mail me – long story my tech has not gotten OpenID working on this WordPress blog yet).

Government data linked together…

Kaliya Young · January 15, 2008 · Leave a Comment

From Slashdot:

a story from The Guardian about FBI interest in connectivity between its own database resources and those abroad. It’s spearheading a program labeled ‘Server in the Sky’, meant to coordinate the police forces of the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand to better fight international crime/terrorist groups. The group is calling itself the International Information Consortium.
“Britain’s National Policing Improvement Agency has been the lead body for the FBI project because it is responsible for IDENT1, the UK database holding 7m sets of fingerprints and other biometric details used by police forces to search for matches from scenes of crimes. Many of the prints are either from a person with no criminal record, or have yet to be matched to a named individual. IDENT1 was built by the computer technology arm of the US defence company Northrop Grumman. In future it is expected to hold palm prints, facial images and video sequences.”

Giddy about IIW & Monday is Free

Kaliya Young · November 29, 2007 · Leave a Comment

I am Giddy with excitement about IIW. Really – I have been bouncing off the walls all day. Almost* all my ‘identity’ friends are coming together and some new friends are showing up to meet you all. New people I don’t know will be there and adding to the mix.
We are experimenting with a new way to do monday with our introductory track being lead and choreographed by Phil. Each of the working groups/ major projects will have one-pagers for everyone to get a clear picture of the different activities. (BTW you still have time to get your one pagers to me).
Monday’s Introductory Track is going to be Free for folks who want to ‘check it out’ to come by. If they want to stay for dinner they are welcome if they chip in. If they want to stay for the conference they can register for it.
Joseph has written a great post about ‘why’ IIW has been really valuable to him and Plaxo.
Sean Ammirati has a great post just posted on Read/Write Web highlights why user-centric identity is important and how it fits into some of the themes discussed on RWW.
I hope we do get ‘slammed’ because it would be great to have more people who really want to engage. As a producer I get really worried about this because we ordered food for 150 people. So I will take a deep breath and hope it all works out.
So…The MC ‘position’ for the Untalent Show is open. If you would be interested in doing this let me know (Eve Maler who has been the MC before is not going to be at this IIW). Prepare your talents’ it could be anything – really. We are a friendly bunch….You can also do hybrid creations – we often have a few verses from a popular song – reauthored to reflect the community’s unique perspective on things.
IIW is a Community event and there is basically “no staff” (There are some students who are there to help ‘extra’ but that is not staff.)
This year my goal is to actually have enough ‘space’ to attend 50% of sessions (I only really attended one last time). So we are going to have a volunteer sign up opportunity so many people can do a few small things to make our event go well. So look for this if you would like to help. ALSO each person taking responsibility and doing the little things like putting your lunch plate in the trash helps make our space nice.
Oh and this IIW we are going to do compostables. So all of our plates, knives, forks, clear cups for juice will go to compost. (The coffee cups are brought by Rich and as far as I know are not compostable)
If you want to BRING YOUR OWN COFFEE MUG you could be trash free for IIW.
I can’t wait – it is going to be great!
* Bob Blakley is not going to be at IIW – some important other thing he has to do for us all.

Neflix anonymous data De-anonymization

Kaliya Young · November 28, 2007 · Leave a Comment

Wow! This is a different kind of data breach.

In October last year, Netflix released over 100 million movie ratings made by 500,000 subscribers to their online DVD rental service. The company then offered a prize of $1million to anyone who could better the company’s system of DVD recommendation by 10 per cent or more.
Of course, Netflix assured everybody that the data had been anonymized by removing any personal details.
That turns out to have been a tad optimistic. Arvind Narayanan and Vitaly Shmatikov at the the University of Texas at Austin have just de-anonymized it.

They go on to explain how they did it.
As one of the comments highlights the part they gloss over is that they can only find out who you are if you had an account on Netflix and IMDB.

Because she Owns Her Image

Kaliya Young · September 22, 2007 · Leave a Comment

This is quite an interesting case and highlights a flaw that can occur when people who use Creative Commons work.

A Texas family has sued Creative Commons after their teenaged daughter’s photo was used in an ad campaign for Virgin Mobile Australia. The photo had been taken by the girl’s youth counselor, who put it on Flickr, and chose a CC Attribution license, which allows for commercial use. Virgin did, in fact, attribute the photo to the photographer, fulfilling the terms of the license, but the family is still suing Virgin Mobile Australia and Creative Commons.

The photographer can license the work under CC (for comercial or non-comercial purposes) but that does not mean that the person in the photo has licensed their image to be used.
They should not be suing CC but instead Virgin Mobile because they failed to get permission from her to use her image.
I actually had this happen to me. An image was taken of me at HollyHock and the next year I went to the site to check out their programs I found out I was their new poster girl. I would have given them permission to use my image had they asked but they didn’t.

Catalytic Catalyst OSIS demo tonight!

Kaliya Young · June 27, 2007 · Leave a Comment

This is my third Burton Group Catalyst. It is hard to believe it has been two years since I first came to this event and that the first one I went to was before the first IIW in the Fall of 2005. Today when Gerry Gebel in his talk Can Frameworks Bring It All Together he highlighted The Internet Identity Workshop as a hub of activity in this area and even that it was an unconference!. OSIS one of the working groups of Identity Commons also was highlighted because of its activity and the interoperability demo tonight.
I have lots to say about what I have heard today on Net Nutrality, Power Tools, The Questions, The Community. I will be posting more on that later.

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Identity Faire? just come to IIW

Kaliya Young · May 30, 2007 · 1 Comment

David Kerns proposes an “Identity Faire”

Now, I do agree that we need more conferences of this type. We do have them in North America – things like Courion’s Converge, the Internet Identity Workshops and NetPro’s Directory Experts Conference come to mind

He forgets two more conferences DIDW and Burton Group Catalyst has a significant Identity component and Gartner had and Identity and Access Management Summit.
This idea was inspired by this comment by Symlabs’ Chief Architect Felix Gaehtgens.

He recently dropped me a note to tell me about a European Identity conference he’d attended, and what he found unique about it. In his own words:
“Last week, I was at the 1st European Identity Conference in Munich. This conference is organized by Kuppinger + Cole, a German Identity Analyst group. We know that a lot of new ID Conferences are springing up, since ID management is a hot topic, and many organizers are trying to cash in on numerous conferences out there. However, this conference had something truly unique.
“So what made this conference stand out? First of all, the scope of the presentations. This was something completely new that I haven’t seen before. Most conferences pitch (exclusively, unfortunately) to the CxOs, management and decision makers, and are therefore kept to the high level. This conference also addressed those needs with overviews, workshops and user/case study presentations. HOWEVER, and this is what I liked about it, this was the first conference (in my opinion) that had a broader scope by also addressing the needs of those techies and geeks that roam these types of conferences.
“There were several presentations and workshops that were very technical and ‘hands-on’, going into the real guts of the technology and implementations. I’ve been to a presentation where a person from a German bank talked about how to integrate Kerberos between Unix and Windows. That presentation was fantastic, and very lively. You could feel the electricity in the air with all those geeks like me talking technology. Then there was a real ‘how-to’ workshop on how to boot-strap the Liberty ID-WSF (Web Services Foundation) using two different implementations using a practical example and showing how everything fits together.”

Many of the Identity Gang / Commons folks I spoke to about the conference said it was really just the same conference they keep going to. Talking heads on the range of identity topics. I would put forward that more conferences with talking heads are not needed but an expansion of conferences with cross cutting themes and industry players that come to the Internet Identity Workshop who – do work together.

[The current conferences are] generally organized around a particular vendor, product or technology rather than as part of a conference covering a broad spectrum of identity. Maybe what we really need is an identity fair (or “identitie faire”) with PowerPoint presentations for those who need them and hands-on labs for those who don’t. Something for everyone, under the big top. Not just a “dog-and-pony” show, but a real three ring circus. Who’ll step up and organize this?

Eugene Kim , Phil and I have been thinking about IIW and how to make improvements for next time. We welcome community input on how to make it better – so write us.
I am very clear that we need to systemically as a community have and execute a strategy to reach out to other pockets of folks explicitly doing “identity” work AND to our neighboring fields like Semantic Technology and get them involved in IIW. I think it was good that the ITU folks joined us at IIW this time. There was a call from the floor for more Lawyers next time. I would love to see some proactive outreach to those technical/professional identity communities who you see should be involved in a ‘faire’ being explicitly invited to IIW.

The IIW2007a Spoken Word: CommunityIdentityAuthenticity

Kaliya Young · May 18, 2007 · Leave a Comment

CommunityIdentityAuthenticity

This community…has its challenges.

Harnessing its own enthusiasm and energy to affect real change
It’s a challenge…
Moving together
despite differences in the details
Getting the populace to understand
what we can barely understand and
communicate
between ourselves
It’s a challenge…
Communicating the understanding and importance of internet identity
to the average member
of society
It’s a challenge…
Trust
Divergence versus Convergence
Policy evaluation privacy evaluation
I just feel like shouting out …
My life
My terms:
Choice, Privacy and Control !

Like shouting…
One hundred and eighty passwords — and counting — is too many !!

Shouting
Where’s the money?!
We need to get out of the technology ivory tower!

Shouting

V R M!

I feel like shouting

We are all painting variations on the same picture!
— and it is hard
to see
what the image is.

And then I think, if I were the user, I would say

Don’t rock the boat!

I would say

Keep it simple and make it just…work.
Keep it simple !!!
Why can’t you make this easier for me?

I would say…
What is actually happening here?
Here is what I wish for the future:
I wish it would .. “just work” … for users.
Here’s what I hope for:
Something my dad can use and not get phished.
Here is my dream:
That we get how to engage in real-value, consensual transactions
Here is my dream:
Breaking down power structures
safe and powerful for everyone
in all contexts
Becoming invisible
and indispensable
Authenticity.
— by Mark Aiken, Kevin Turner, Brad Fitzpatrick, Eddie Codel, Peter Davis, Ajay Madhok, Mike Jones, Johannes Ernst, Joe Andrieu, Mark Lentczner, David Recordon, Henrik Biering, Drummond, Reed, V. Gale, Gerald Beuchett, heathervescent, Weston Triemstra, Martin Atkins, Steve Williams, Paul Bryan and Lisa Heft
This spoken word piece was the closing for the
Internet Identity Workshop
May 15, 2007 — Mountain View, California, USA, Earth

"Lunch Meeting" of IIW

Kaliya Young · May 18, 2007 · Leave a Comment

Eddie Codel from Geek Entertainment Television came to the Internet Identity Workshop and interviewed Phil Windley and I about the workshop for his LUNCH MEET show.

NYTimes covers my comments on CFP Panel

Kaliya Young · May 12, 2007 · Leave a Comment

For those of you coming from the NYTimes wanting to explore this middle ground I invite you check out the Vendor Relationship Management project that Doc Searls is leading. We will be talking about it at the Internet Identity Workshop that I am facilitating next week.

“Her solution is essentially to give consumers ownership of their data and the power to decide whether or not to share it with marketers”

Lets just be clear this is not ‘my solution’ but a solution that must be found in a marketplace with a huge diversity of stake holders to help make it real and to balance things out. It is one advocated by Attention Trust and being worked on by the Vendor Relationships Management project.
To date there are very limited ways for me to express my preferences to the market place and get information regarding products and things I might like to buy (and only information about those things not just being ‘targeted’ by advertisers). There are also limited ways that people can work together – to aggregate their purchasing power to make new choices – to express demand before a product is even made and sold. These are the sorts of possibilities that I hope can become more real.
To me it is quite interesting that the New York Times is covering Online Ads vs. Privacy because this past week they made a commitment to do deeper data mining of the people who come to their website to ‘improve’ the advertising.
This reporter/social media thing seems to be working. I was quoted for my audience participation in a session at CFP in an article that appeared in Wired. I was linked to and subsequently wrote about my experience of the panel and the point I was trying to make that there was a middle ground. This reflection in my blog was then picked up in the NYTimes.

From the article:
FOR advertisers, and in many ways for consumers, online advertising is a blessing. Customized messages rescue advertisers from the broad reach of traditional media. And consumers can learn about products and services that appeal directly to them.
But there are huge costs, and many dangers, warns Jennifer Granick, the executive director for the Stanford Law School Center for Internet and Society (wired.com). To approach individuals with customized advertising, you have to know who they are. Or at least, you have to gather enough personal information about them that their identity could be easily figured out….
Even if that is true, people like Kaliya Hamlin still say that collecting data about the online activities of individuals can amount to an invasion of privacy. Ms. Hamlin, known as The Identity Woman, is a privacy advocate and consultant. “My clickstream data is sensitive information,” she told Mr. Zaneis, “and it belongs to me.”
On her blog, though, Ms. Hamlin wrote that she found the whole affair frustrating. It was, she wrote, the “angry, progressive anticonsumer guy vs. the super-corporate marketing guy.”
The answers, she wrote, lie somewhere between those positions. “The ‘activist types’ tend to deny that we are people who actually might want to buy things in a marketplace,” she wrote. “The ‘corporate types’ tend to think that we always want to have ‘advertising’ presented to us at all times of day or night because we ‘want it.’ Neither view is really right.”
Her solution is essentially to give consumers ownership of their data and the power to decide whether or not to share it with marketers (kaliyasblogs.net/Iwoman) [[ Note to the NYTimes reporters – if you quote a blogger from their blog posts you should link to the actual blog post you are quoting not just the blog itself]]

Again regarding my identity – I am not sure I would describe myself as a ‘privacy advocate’ but rather an end-user advocate, for transparancy, disclosure and passionate about open standards.

Prepare your Un-tallent

Kaliya Young · May 9, 2007 · Leave a Comment

David Kerns just posted some great parody lyrics to the “Rainbow Connection” here. Eve Maler is again going to be the MC of the un-talent show on Tuesday evening at the Monte Carlo (formerly La Rioja, formerly formerly the Monte Carlo). Both original songs, poems, talent along with parody Lyrics to accompany Karaoke are welcome (and you can enlist the identity choir to sing with you).
You can ping her via e-mail or just talk to her onsite on Monday and Tuesday at IIW if you want to get up on stage.

In Wired about CFP

Kaliya Young · May 9, 2007 · 1 Comment

I just checked my visitors log and found a link from WIRED that mentions me.

While many websites do not collect names, addresses, Social Security numbers or other “personally identifiable information,” or PII, the information they do collect is extremely revealing. “They don’t need to know your name to know who you are,” Chester said.
A very different perspective came from Mike Zaneis of the Internet Advertising Bureau. Dressed in a much better suit than any other CFP participant, and sporting a John Edwards-quality quaff and a smooth manner, Zaneis faced a hostile, privacy-loving crowd.
Zaneis stressed that profiling does not capture PII. But the audience appeared to agree with Chester that browsing history and search information was nonetheless private. “My clickstream data is sensitive information,” said privacy activist Kaliya Hamlin, known as the Identity Woman, “and it belongs to me.”

I am not sure that I would describe myself as a privacy activist but rather an end-user advocate passionate about open standards.
I found the panel described in the article frustrating. It was one angry progressive anti-consumer guy vs. the super corporate marketing guy. The ‘activist types’ tend to deny that we are people who actually might want to buy things in a market place. The ‘corporate types’ tend to think that we always want to have ‘advertising’ presented to us at all times of day or night because we ‘want it.’ Neither view is really right. I pointed out that there was an option to give users back their ‘attention’ (clickstream) data from the sites that they visit. There could be ways to actually express one’s market needs/preferences and get advertising related to that specific need (this is not enabled anywhere that I know of right now). The VRM (Vendor Relationship Management) discussion is getting interesting and hopefully we can talk more about the issues raised in the space in between privacy and advertising at IIW next week.

Credit Checks by the Government 'legal'

Kaliya Young · January 24, 2007 · Leave a Comment

More privacy invasion by the Executive Branch:

Vice President Dick Cheney said Sunday the Pentagon and CIA are not violating people’s rights by examining the banking and credit records of hundreds of Americans and others suspected of terrorism or espionage in the United States.
Rep. Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, the new chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said his panel will be the judge of that.
National security letters permit the executive branch to seek records about people in terrorism and spy investigations without a judge’s approval or grand jury subpoena.

Identity Gang Dinner at RSA

Kaliya Young · January 18, 2007 · Leave a Comment

I am heading to RSA this year to cover the show for DIDW. Last year was my first dip into all out ‘security land.’ I was glad to hang out with Bob and Pam who helped me understand things there. It occurred to me that it might be fun to have an Identity Gang Dinner one night of the show. This will be both for folks on the list and those at RSA who might be interested in getting to know what we are up to.

Our songs….

Kaliya Young · December 28, 2006 · Leave a Comment

I found this on Paul Madson’s blog today while looking up Yadis history. I didn’t really realize we had a ‘song’ in the community. Maybe for the next IIW we will have a few more.
Y.M.C.A (without the overt sexuality)
Johannes calls for contributions to the YADIS song.
Note: for optimum enjoyment, this should be sung while wearing motorcycle leathers. Your call of course.
Ya-URL*, there’s no need to feel down.
I said, ya-URL, cause your future is sound.
I said, ya-URL, your metadata can now be found
Your issues need not go un-resolv-ed.
Ya-URL, there’s a place you can rest.
I said, ya-URL, for your capabilities we can test.
They can start there, and providers can find
Others of a sim-ilar-URI-kind.
It’s fun to rest with y-a-d-i-s.
It’s fun to rest with y-a-d-i-s.
(Repeat till nauseus)
* – the ‘earl’ pronunciation, not the spelled-out acronym. This will be key for ‘getting it’.

The Open Phone a platform for User-centric ID apps?

Kaliya Young · November 16, 2006 · 1 Comment

Reading SlashDot I found this article about the Open Phone coming out with a Linux operating system. The left lots of room for folks to write apps to run on top of it. It sounds like a great platform for some identity applications and UI experimentation. Maybe we can have a session at IIW regarding its potential.
On another note I went to ‘digg’ it and it asked me to login….I don’t want another name and password thankyou!

The 4 overlapping people – Web2.0 and GreenFest

Kaliya Young · November 13, 2006 · Leave a Comment

Last week was full.
I joined a startup (Confabb),
went to the hallway track and events around the edge of Web 2.0,
facilitated Ruby on Rails Camp in San Jose,
peeked my head into Web2poin2 (the one track? unconference?)
and caught the very end of the NTEN Social Change and Wireless conference.
Over the weekend I went to the Green Festival – ironically it had its own “DotCom” party brought to us by SustainLane.
The interesting thing was the four people who were at both Web2.0 and Green Fest. Myself, David Fox, Tom Rielly from TED and Victor from earthgrid.
If you went to the Green Festival or Web 2.0 you can go in to Confabb and rate and review any of the sessions. I am hoping we can use this for the upcoming Internet Identity Workshop.
ps. if you were at both events feel free to contact me and I will ad you to the list.

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