Stowe Boyde and Drummond are going back and forth about tagging
Post 1 by Stowe
Post 2 by Stowe
Post 3 by Drummond
Post 4 by Stowe
Post 5 by Drummond
ID Protocol
Catalyst: SSO Simple Secure and Open – Dick on Identity .20
Dick – had a 580 slide deck done Lessig Style
This is a summary of his talk:
We found out about Dick’s Identity
We learned a about what Identity is
What I say about me
What other say about me (others trust this)
So,
identity=reputaiton
What others say about you
We learned about Identity Transactions:
Verbal in person (with visual cues)
Talk on phone (loss of visual cues)
Job Application (fill out form)
We learned about data verification using drivers licenses in the real world and how the process reduces Identity Friction.
Identity Transactions are Asymmetrical
There is separation of the acquisition and presentation of credential
The credential is reusable
Trust is social
What is digital identity?
Identity 1.0 Today
Today it is the hassel of filling out the same information again and again.
Basically today authentication is that you get to prove you are an entry in a directory entry. single authority on one credential – not portable – in silo.
Verified digital Identity is not what you give a site today.
e-bay -/-> Craigslist
We have walled gardens
Identity 2.0 is where the user can move it to any site.
Simple and open has a history of winning in new standards look at:
- networking
- web – html
WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?
Identity Credential exchange is transparent transaction that is scalable.
WHO WILL DRIVE THIS?
users? – to many user names and passwords
won’t pay – little influence
enterprise? – partners, contracts, agents
but risky to lead… can’t get there
Identity 1.5
e-government?
maybe
but localized
Banks?
motivated to solve
theoretical trust relationship
Identity Ecosystem will emerge where
users are loosely coupled
share user identity
We are in a new era
Webservices – Flickr, Mappr, SalesForce
Web 2.0 will drive identity 2.0
It will happen on the edge of the Internet (not the edge of the enterprise).
XRI/XDI no web-service apps
SXIP
name/value pairs
DIGS XML
The goal is to mimic photo ID
With Sxip Network
SXIP 1.0 has had a few tire kickers
SXORE Blog comment spam solution
SXIP 2.0 support web services
SXIP ACCESS
SSO – Simple Secure and Open
Jamie Lewis –
Q: So will this go into a STANDARDS PROCESS?
A: We are working on it. We want to get it very close to right then put it into standards body. I like IETF. Our goal is to be open
How it 'should' work.
Doc is an endless source of amazement and wisdom. He has been communicating about this stuff so clearly for so long one wonders why they are not listening. At least the identity gang is.
The Net is a World
Craig Burton:
Think of the Net as a hollow sphere made entirely of people and resources it connects.
– It is the first world made by people for people.
We’ve only begun to terraform it
One of its virtues is the emptiness in the middle.
The Net is a World with Three Virtues
1. Nobody Owns it
2. Everybody can use it
3. Anybody can improve it
Notice the use of the word – body in these sentences not noone, everyone and anyone.
The history of the net is the history of its protocols.
Civilization doesn’t move all at the same speed.
mmm… this explains why marc is frustated with us meeting so much we are building infrastructure not buildings it takes a bit of time. Now that the infrastructure is there for real open standards for digital identity lets see what we can build with them.
Between two perspectives… Commerce and Governace lies infrastructure…
How simple does it need to be?
FAQ’s about LID from Johannes Ernst’s Blog – I think they apply to the work happening around XRI/XDI and Identity Commons stuff. I am going to do my part by working on doing some essays with lots of simple diagrams to explain the ecology of organizations and roles. Hopefully we can also do a short video about it too.
What’s your measure of how complex a single-sign-on technology can be so it can be adopted broadly?
A weekend of implementation effort, maximum. Here’s why: SSO only makes sense if basically everybody can implement it. That includes a lot of players, from your 401k plan (who could probably afford a lot more than that) down to the message board of the parent-teacher assocation that’s run by Joey’s dad on his home Linux server. Joey’s dad is not going to spend more than a weekend of his time to make it work. He’s also not going to go out and buy expensive software. He might download some Perl, but that’s about it. Ergo: one weekend, no more.
Catching Up – LID XDI inter-op Demo
This is an exciting development that happened a few months ago. ooTao has done an inter-op of XDI and LID demo along with a few others:
- 2idi I-Broker integration
- I-Name Profile Manager
- XDI Viewer
- I-Name enabled Outlook Form
