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Data Sharing Summit Notes

Kaliya Young · May 22, 2008 · 1 Comment

The Second Data Sharing Summit was a great success here are all the notes summarized along with the links to the wiki. If you were in a session feel free to add more content to the wiki. We are sending out a survey in the next day and are currently planning on moving ahead with a 3rd summit in September a year after the first one.
Data Sharing Events (link to wiki)
Data Sharing Events are independent open gathering spaces where all parties interested in challenge of data sharing can work together.
* Affiliate with a something like IC to build credibility
* Do AGAIN in SEPTEMBER.

Friend Connect etc.
(link to wiki)

  • Friend Connect is a Platfrom support of OpenSocial, not a data collection exercise
  • Makes any site an OpenSocial Container


Activity Data
(link to wiki)

  • More Information / Discussion is needed around the rules for exposing activity beyond that which is avaliable through RSS, APML, etc. (i.e. how to promote and standardize the sharing of activity data which is avaliable behind the wall, through oAuth and other standards)
  • Contact of the stream matters more that delivery mechanism
  • People who are consuming the new structure will likely encounter new types of Activity Structures


Digital Public
(link to wiki)

  • The models of people in our heads don’t fit into schemas.


Linked Data
(link to wiki)
Presentation will be up on http://blogs.sun.com/bbefish
Overview
* Demo of http://summer.dev.java.net/Addressbook.html
* Illustration of distributed social network
* How to add security

What’s Real & Tech Best Practices
(link to wiki)

  • Use OAuth & Portable Contacts
  • Tech Best Practice Will be updated

MySpace Profile (link to wiki)

  • JSon (Open Social), hCard | XFN or FOAF, SemWeb, OpenDD, Portable Address Book (Plaxo)
  • Persistent Data Agreements
  • User Types


Personal Address Manager using ID-WSF
Working Demo (link to wiki)

  • Discovery of Delivery Service disc
  • Clear use-case and flow
  • Discussion of iCard and point of “mosaic” authorization (mashup of dereferenccable claims)

R-Cards Demonstration and Discussion (link to wiki)

  • R-Cards enable a ‘feed’ not just claims
  • Setting up the relationship is:

* different and positioned orthogonal to login.
* sometimes longterm (not necessarily continuous), or 1x, or short term.

  • R-Cards need a common data format (or formats) for RP’s
  • 1 issuer, multiple claims (links) to multiple sources

(pagan -> ptolemic -> copernican -> newtonian -> einsteinian)
Event Attendance Data Sharing (link to wiki)

  • Add event data API to Open Social Spec

Service Providers Matrix From Data Sharing Summit (link to wiki)
This Group Session was to create a Service Provider grid that illustrated the state of what features are available and if providers are using open standards to implement them.
Grid idea came from Stacy Higgingbotham’s – Prying Open the Social Graph article on GIGAOM and Kaliya’s session recommendation on Comparing the ‘Openness’ Announcements.
Grid as produced in the session can be accessed here: (click on Service Provider name along the top to see what data was inputted)
-NOTE: Since this data was put on the grid by both representatives of the service providers as well as other attendees at the Summit- this data is not verified
Daniela Barbosa of the DataPortability Project Group has volunteered on behalf of the Data Sharing Summit and the DataPortability group to find a home for this grid so that it can be verified and expanded upon. Information to be posted here as that is finalized.
Laws of Data Sharing From Data Sharing Summit (link wiki)
Jeff Hodges and Bob Blakely
Key words and phrases

  • Profile
  • Friends
  • Attributes
  • Rights (legal)
  • Expectations
  • Identity
  • Relationship
  • artifacts
  • group
  • social graph
  • social contract
  • Permissions Metadata
  • Open XML format for contact info
  • Delete Account

Broad Questions

  1. What expectations are being set?
  2. Whose expectations Matter?
  3. How do we avoid confusion?
  4. What confusion has to be overcome?
  5. What language is “product specific” and what is “market” specific?
  6. How does “identity”, or the understanding of identity, relate to the benefit and threat of data sharing.
  7. What should be my expectation about “private” data
  8. What datasharing norms “cultural”

Principles of Data Sharing

  • Data Sharing principles should follow social norms — or at least not be destructive of social norms.
  • Context is critical to decisions and expectation about the sharing of data
  • Expectations about sharing should be clear to the parties…[and preserved “downstream”]
  • There can be no expectation of “private” information and all expectations should operate accordingly, unless modified specifically by social contract
  • The community should support standard “best practices” and policies about preserving “permissions”

Action Items

  • Bob Blakley and Dan Carroll to follow up with Mary Rundle about work on Creative-Commons-like icons for Data Sharing.
  • Compile a bibliography of existing work around data sharing.

Some additional comments:

  • This isn’t exactly a new topic. Lots of existing organizations who are already dealing with issues around data sharing.

Data Sharing and Privacy (link to wiki)
The common stories about social network portability are all about letting data flow freely. There are many purposes — personal privacy; community norms; legal risks; business competitive issues — that might cause people to want use discretion and context in social network sharing. In this session, we’ll brainstorm stories for social network data sharing that incorporate concepts of privacy and context.
Everything is locked down, private, non portable. Or everything is open, public, and free-flowing.
But data sharing and privacy are not black and white. In real life, people share and present information based on social context. There are gradations of privacy and information sharing.
There are interesting social trends as people negotiate the increased default level of fame in internet life. And cautionary tales about data sharing gone wrong.
STORIES:
Private information
There are times when it is right to share data in a way that preserves privacy. Family members use different photo services, and want to share photos with each other but not the rest of the world. A group working on mergers and acquisitions absolutely needs to keep information confidential. In these cases one give permission to family, friends, or business associates based on membership in a group.
Signal to noise, social context
There are many circumstances where information isn’t truly private. But people choose to share with smaller groups. Someone doesn’t want to bore all of their friends with information about knitting or rock climbing, when that information is relevant only to a few. Information about one’s political or religious affiliation isn’t a secret, but it may not be the information one chooses to share when meeting new people at a professional conference. In these cases, it would be useful to have the ability to create tags for the relevant groups, and share by tag. The tags can capture the nuances of subgroups: knitting hats vs. knitting sweaters, say.
Progressive disclosure
There are circumstances when people want to start by sharing with a smaller group, and invite more people. Or start by sharing a little bit of information about common interest, and later share more sensitive information.
Stream filter
The signal to noise and progressive disclosure patterns are about the person sharing information. Stream filtering is for the recipient. Sometimes one wants to “people watch” a diverse stream of information. And sometimes one wants to focus on the current work project, or upcoming social events. Stream filtering is used by individuals who want to apply a context to the information they receive.
Persona
People use identifiers — dress or email address — to represent more than one persona. The same person wears different clothes, with co-workers, at a customer meeting vs. a barbecue.
Personal vs. admin control
In organizations, there are some things that an individual may want to control, and some things that admins want to control. A person might want to share soccer pictures with the soccer league. An admin may want to ensure that people aren’t sharing the sports illustrated calendar widget.
Reuse of Shared Information
As feeds for status and information shared in one service with its given context are used in different services and contexts there are increasing difficulties thinking through the implications of extended use and reuse of shared information. Often Facebook or Twitter (as example) status messages are pulled into Skype, but the contexts can be quite different as one is playful and the other is business context and the same message that is humorous in one can be damaging in the other.
ON THE INTERNET, EVERYONE IS FAMOUS
We talked about people’s experiences handling the increased visibility of internet life.
Managing one’s reputation
People share about their experiences in order to get their side of the story out and create a public image. Among digital natives, “it’s not a real breakup until you’ve listed it on facebook.
Handling fame
Before the internet, there were only a small number of people who had more followers than people can confortably manage socially. Now many more people do. More widespread fame means that more people have the issues with stalkers and pestering fans.
Cautionary and instructive tales
At the session at the data sharing summit, the conversation turned to cautionary tales about social data sharing gone wrong.
Failed white lies
Someone begs out of a work-related social event by claiming the flu. His boss discovers a picture on flickr of the guy wearing a skirt and holding a drink. The picture is timestamped at the same data as the work party. His boss sends him a note suggesting that that may not be an effective way to recover from the flu. The lesson here is that some things that feel private are more public than we think.
Social network molting
It is socially awkward to unfriend people. Some people get around obsolete lists of friends by “forgetting” their password and needing to invite their current lists of friends with a new password. The lesson is that declared, public friends lists are inherently awkward.
The ex-girlfriend effect
The list of “people you should know” in social network recommendations often includes exes and enemies. These are people who are part of your social graph – but you are not connected to directly. The algorithm doesn’t know that some gaps in the social graph are deliberate.

More to talk about at the Data Sharing Summit

Kaliya Young · May 8, 2008 · Leave a Comment

Clearly there is lots to talk about next week at the Data Sharing Summit Thursday May 15th at the Computer History Museum with the MySpace Data Avaliability initiative.

The most important news of the day

Kaliya Young · April 23, 2008 · Leave a Comment

is the new data portability logo of course.
I am a big fan of having problems be solved in this problem space and just hosted the second collaborative ‘get it done’ workshop in this area in the last 8 months – on Friday and Saturday see the report all about what got done. We have another one coming up in a month – the DATA SHARING SUMMIT May 15th.

Data Sharing Workshop Report

Kaliya Young · April 22, 2008 · 3 Comments

We had an amazing group that gathered for the Data Sharing Workshop April 18 and 19 (Our Summit is coming up May 15th). It was as we had envisioned – a range of people from large portal companies, device manufactures and small startups.
We had 5 great sponsors Vidoop, Plaxo, BBC, Twine, and Broadband Mechanics. We met at the SFSU Center for the Next Generation Internet and collaborated with the dataportability.org community.
Attendees included those new to the space and veterans who have been working on the issues involved for years. We invited 9 different industry people to open our morning by sharing what they saw as the problem and where we were at.

Everyone introduced themselves and then we dove into making a really great agenda wall.

We also had a Wall of Results. Each session was asked to out put an 11×17 piece of paper what they got done.
Here are some notes from those summaries and the wiki. (please feel free to add more to the wiki if you were in a session and took notes)

How to help you help yourself? was one of the opening sessions lead by Angus Logan of Microsoft. This was really focusing on how to get away from the give us your password and we will scrap your data for you method of users getting their data out.
* User Experience is Hard
* HOw do we get sites to adopt new methods?
o Make sure API’s are truly functional equivalent to scraping
o try to make the UX work well
o Get good PR and Goodwill from getting off passwords
o provide libraries, sample code tutorials
o Host hackathons
o be patient – everyone’s really busy
Being careful with the word own was a session lead by Gabe Wachob
The words we choose when talking about these topics because of the unintended consequences:
* if we define in terms of rights?
* frame the term for the public policy discussions that will come
* “control” has similar issues
We need Creative Commons like understandable controls for your data
We need to initiate conversations
Examples
* who “owns” your bank account balance
What is Identity Commons?
This covered a bit of the history and an explanation of our loose community structure. It is outlined on our wiki. We have 12+ community groups
The ecosystem conversation was interesting – the sense that people had was that we are in the age of “data sharing” similar to the time before cel phone number portability. Marc Canter highlighted formats that have become normative and should be abstracted out.
* Social Graph
* Contact list
* Media Gallery
* Ubiquitous Content
* ID – persona’s and groups
* LIVE WEB events
* Feed Actions
* Blogging – Regular and Micro
The following is needed: Marketing of what the benefits are to relying parties and to vendors. Turning the customer acquisition budget.
Questions were raised about what standards are in this space. There were some that were articulated Note that this list is not comprehensive. Please feel free to add more.
Feeds and OAuth:
* Start by trying to access feed as if it were public:
o username -> profile -> feed url
* Get 401 with auth resp. header if it’s only private, or 200 + link_rel to private version
* Do OAuth discovery or the profile/feed URL
* Perform OAuth -> Get token
* ask for feed with token in authorization headers
* SUCCESS!!
WHAT IS DATA PORTABILITY?
This was an interesting rambling conversation for 2.5 hours.
Clarity emerged around stakeholders and means of engagement. concerns were expressed about improving communication.
* Are data portability and OpenID apples and oranges? there was a healthy debate
* Where is the consensus -Today?
* Terminology heard in the converstaion
RSS, APML, i-card, Open Stack, Identity, Permission, Attention, Container, OAuth, owner, viral, openID, FUD, Interoperability, data sharing, data portability, OSIS.
* Means of Engagement
o specs-style reporting
o bi-weekly outreach
o more blogging
o pull input + commentary
o Don’t ask for comment
o date v. marry
* Concerns/ Threats / Challenges
o Hype v. Beef
o What is the story?
o Is DataPortability THE umbrella phrase?
o Politicizing + Emotion
o Lack of clarity on Scope
* Where is the consensus today?
This was not fully clear but there was a good conversation.
URLs are People too…Social Graph API
* Links are relationships
* Rel=”me” connects ourselves
* rel=”friend” etc. connects to friends
Social Graph API is a cache of the distributed social graph of the public web.
Open Social Q & A

  1. Portability by moving Apps to where the data is or bringing the apps to the users contexts.
  2. Networks as different countries * friends may be hidden * technology: 1 Google, 3 apis (people, friends, activities) — Not as border controls but to extend websites to where users are now
  3. Data: person info; viewer friends; page owner (can be viewer); page owner who’s not a person ; not relationships or thoughts but correlations between what people have already created
  4. User Experience: Apps centric, not in terms of google’s functionality or assumptions
  5. Container determines contxt when linking people and because the user builds the container(s), control is appropriately there
  6. Apps: Most successful will be basic data sharing that have universal applicability; word-of-mouth / engagement viral v. demographic targeting or size-of market targeting; to focus on mail functions is to serve the disease, which will eventually develop immunity
  7. Enables data portability by bringing the applications to where the data is.

OpenSocial — A foundation
* openID based
* Opensource problems
* myspace, orkut, are shipping now
* make doing social stuff easier
What is XDI ?
XDI = XRI data Interchange
XRI = eXtensible Resource Identifier.

  1. XDI is a “PDF for Data” – a portable format for sharing data across applications and services
  2. XDI is also a simple RESTful protocol for sharing data using XDI documents
  3. XDI includes portable permissions called XDI Link contracts

An Open Address Book – we had several folks in attendance telco’s and handset makers. they talked about the big idea – ” We need a single schema for person information” then asked Is this realistic? Finally concluding Death of the phone address book? (Long live the phone address book!)
Semantic Web and Data Sharing
Native
* rich
* low interop
* links internal/proprietary/ not at all
HTML
* LCD
* Highly interoperable
* standardized links
* semi-structured
RDF
* rich description
* ? interop
* no links other then correlation
* not structured
XDI
* Rich
* High Interop
* Fully Linked
* Fully Structured
LLLI/Kintera Use Case and Solution:
In this session we explored the OpenID, XRI and XDI solution deployed to satisfy the Le Leche League International distributed data requirements. The software solutions provider Kintera has been a partner with ooTao in this effort. Kintera hosts 128 Million individual profiles so can help create significant adoption figures on its own.
We saw how each individual member and every system component was given an XRI identifier. In the case of individuals the XRIs – i-names were associated with OpenID services for authentication and in the case of system components the XRIs were given public/private key pairs in order to authenticate to other system components.
The result of the LLLI work is a WORKING distributed data management system that leverages distributed identity for its authentication and authentication mechanisms. For more information contact Andy Dale via his iPage at =andy

Restful Data Addressing
Mike Mell Led this session articulating a proposed syntax for Restful data addressing. He articulated these goals:

  • pure HTTP requests
  • UserAgent to server
  • server to server
  • secure
  • Fine grained addressing and permissioning of any data node

The wiki outlines specific elements in the syntax along with Response and Authentication Modes.
Doable Now and Soon
This was one of the sessions on Saturdays – with a calm group that had been through a really intense day Friday. There was agreement on the ‘dobale now’ and likely doable soon if the right conversations were had.
Dobale Now
* Portable Identities (OpenID, LiveID, FB-ID)
* OAuth (sever to server) delegated auth.
* Contacts Portability (FOAF, XFN, Microformats, like MicroID)
* Sync (feed sync)
* Social Network Portability (Open Social FB platform)
* Social Application Portability
Doable Soon
* Standard Schema for Profile
* Standard Schema for Address books
* Media portability + metadata + permissions
* Linking ID’s of different ecosystems?
OVERALL
The event was full a success. Many people travelled on planes just to be at this event. Some even from Europe. Since the last summit a lot of clarity emerged around what the problem space was and how different approaches could work on addressing the issues.
Key Areas to be addressed at the Summit on May 15th include:

* more conversation about the business value to vendors to allow user-data out of their systems.
* We want to focus on schemas for profile data and address books, not as much on the social graph at this point.
* Demo’s likely we will have speed geeking at lunch.
* Work is happening on an ‘alpha’ version of an executive briefing . Some thoughts: We are moving in to an interconnected world where implementation decisions are not tied to the technologies. That is, how you participate is not tied to the technologies. We are not just talking about future proofing, but about providing a relatively easy way to give yourself options to work in the various scenarios that analysts are already saying are happening. You can increase the value of your offerings by building on offerings provided by others without needing to throw a lot of money at bringing it together. The objective is to make things easier to interconnect. In part by just defining the nature of the interactions that you want.

* We also need to consider targeting legal and policy decision makers. Perhaps from the EEF? other organizations. We don’t necessarily want to target legal departments in large organizations, but different external bodies involved in policy-making.
* We want to gather a larger group from the different companies involved, especially more product managers and other decision makers from companies such as AOL, Microsoft, Google, Myspace (if possible), etc.
* We welcome further input into the goals and outcome for the Summit – the agenda will be determined by the people who attend. Please contribute on the wiki to the Proposed Topics page.
We had a quite closing on Saturday and people were asked what the got out of the event and what their next actions were. You can click through to see what they answered.
I am really looking forward to the Summit following the Internet Identity Workshop – it is going to be even more amazing then this event was and move the whole field forward.

RSA pr3: OSIS Interop

Kaliya Young · April 12, 2008 · Leave a Comment

The OSIS interop was happened in a little room in the same hallway as the speaker lounge – but there was no signage to point people there 🙁
On Monday evening there was a OSIS steering committee meeting. The last one of these I sat in on was at Burton Group Catalyst. It was a good meeting – they talked about the European Identity Conference coming up in a few weeks where they will be again setting up and having interop demo’s based on the I3 work. Some of the European participants will be there. The agreement was that Interop4 would happen at Burton Group Catalyst continuing the work of I3 because it was not complete yet.
Roger Sullivan in his position as representing Liberty Alliance where he is President attended (he is also the Vice President of Business Development for Oracle Identity Management). I found it interesting that Roger said the word user when reffering to entities like Boeing and General Motors. I piped up and said that I felt that the use-cases and needs of ‘end-users’ were different then the needs of massive multi-national entities. He said that the ‘issues’ were all the same. I guess in one way that is true – in the end it is people at the end of the computer terminals. In another way it is different to log into an ‘enterprise environment’ (intense permissioning, lots of legal regulation etc) then it is to manage your personal shopping online. Out of this exchange came the differentiation between these two kinds of users – the larger being ‘deployers’ and the smaller being ‘users.’
As a community we had a good chance to talk about issues. The message that Roger did bring forward was that enterprise customers wanted less confusion in the market – because until it was clearer there would not be purchase of product. There will be more insight into this in the forth coming post about the the conversation I had with other executives at Oracle over a ‘blogger lunch’ on Thursday.
Major ISSUE – there was ‘apparently’ two competing interop events at the same conference. One was backed by a large and well funded organization with a PR staff to promote itself the other was a fabulous grassroots effort – doing huge amounts with very little. It was agreed that next time Concordia and OSIS would collaborate and have an interop in the same place and have one press release (or at least two press releases with mutual quoting) although with different use-case focuses. This is my drawing of the picture that became clear through the meeting.

OpenID Foundation and OSIS is a community group (there is serious consideration of changing our current description from “Working Groups” to “Community Groups”) of Identity Commons, the i-card foundation that is proposed would also be (there are some interesting questions about it).
I worked hard on Tuesday morning before the OSIS interop on some signage for Identity Commons. We had the new diagram that is on the front page of the wiki along with a this sentence that i think goes a long way to describe who we are.

We are a community of groups working on addressing the social, legal and technical issues that arise with the emerging, identity, data and social layer of the internet.

Johannes pointed out that after that some articulation of the issues we are tackling could be listed. This is a list I recently wrote up and shared with a reporter (and she actually said it was ‘clear’). I will put the high level questions we are trying to answer in the context of the ‘clear’ articulation I sent her.
Since the Web was built around “pages”, no tools or standards were created to control how the information about you was collected or used. We all agree that we need some kind of “open identity layer” for the Internet, but we don’t know exactly what that means or what it looks like. Our community has come together around some shared understanding of this and we continue to ’struggle’ with what it means and how it should work.
We are working as a Community, on the development of the next layer of the web—for people and their information—the social-data layer. It’s going to take time to figure out, and lots of people have already been working hard for several years and have made significant progress.
These are the questions we’re striving to answer:

  • What are the open standards to make it work? (identity and semantic)
  • What are technical implementations of those standards?How do different standards and technical implementations interoperate?
  • What are the new social norms and legal constructs needed to make it work?
  • What are the businesses cases / models that drive all this?

Identity Commons is the collection of groups where these conversations are happening.
All this takes time, and yes, interest is growing and movement is happening, but there is not ‘one answer’ or ‘one blueprint.’ As Doc Searls, one of the ‘grandfathers’ of this movement is fond of saying, it is a “market conversation.”
We need a broad and diverse range of participants. This layer once implemented will be as world changing as the World Wide Web of documents was for the Internet.
I also think it is important to remember and emphasize that we are in a phase where there is a lot to get figured out and there is not ‘one answer.’ I think we as a community can tell a clear compelling story to the market AND continue to foster a lively and diverse conversation about the issues that are arising (technical, legal, social). It is some times is hard to remember how unclear things were 2 years ago but they were very vague then – if we continue to progress I am confident a market can develop for these tools. Both the peer-to-peer sessions on this topic were interesting and had a range of enterprise folks looking at these tools (a blog post about those will also follow in this series).
Here is a photo of the interop in progress – next post – interop videos – coming tomorrow.

Over the next week I will work on the the 20 other posts that I have outlined this morning. – ok off to the airport now.

RSA pt2: Concordia Interop

Kaliya Young · April 12, 2008 · Leave a Comment

Day One seems so long ago. I moved all my stuff over from the east bay on Sunday night – Pam was nice enough to let me room with her to save the 1 hour commute each way to home for the week.
I got up early and headed to the Concordia Interop – I got their early enough to see the OpenID logo on the sign. OpenID has not been actively participating in these Liberty lead efforts for a while now and asked that their logo be removed from the website etc. Shortly afterwards a guy with white tape came and covered it up.

This slide explained their current focus and next focus.

Eve handed the podium over to Mike Jones and he introduced the day and explained the three scenario’s they were demonstrating interoperability for. SAML and WS stuff with an emphasis on the enterprise use case.


They shifted into demo’s at the back of the room and presentations at the front.
Lena from FuGen presented this slide.

It presented the complexity of federation and the different shapes that it has. The same policy between a range of partners, different policies with different partners and
There was about 300 people in the introduction and this faded out.

RSA pt1: What a week

Kaliya Young · April 12, 2008 · Leave a Comment

Wow – what a week. I was not expecting the conference to be as intense as it was. I was able to give more to the conference and get more out of it.
It made me realize how much I have learned about the “enterprise & security scene” in the last 3 years. Three years ago I walked by RSA by accident – it was on at Moscone – theme was 1930’s gangsters. I saw Sxip’s logo on the signs for sponsors and I picked up an agenda. I of course didn’t have a pass at all. The next year as it approached I figured it would be a good learning opportunity and I asked if I could help cover the event for Digital Identity World. It was ALL new to me – I was overwhelmed by the acronyms and I just remember not understanding anything on the show floor – I often had to ask them to ‘explain their thing’ to me. There was certainly no formal talk of user-centrism in at the conference either.
Last year we had the big OpenID, MSFT cooperation announcement – it is nice to see that this was real – with their recent joining of the board (along with other big players). I am not sure there were any presentations about it at the event though. I knew more when wondering the show floor but still had to ask a lot of questions.
This year was amazing – this next series of posts will cover the range of things that happened and my reflections. I really could write for a whole two days – however I only have this morning – I am headed to Seattle today for the Green Festival and a conference I am co-producing and co-facilitating about people stepping outside of the box of regular money. I am back here on Wednesday and will be facilitating the Data Sharing Workshop. I am really excited about this event – last fall we had this event prior to the IIW and it really helped sync up the different things happening that are aligned but have different starting points.
John McCrae of Plaxo wrote a great post about it yesturday that features both “Identity Dog” and our “Data Sharing Snail”.

Oh YEAH! OpenID is now apparently working on my blog for comments – so try it out we shall see if it works.

Dinner for RSA Wed Apr 9th @ 7:30

Kaliya Young · April 1, 2008 · Leave a Comment

We are organizing an Identity Commons community Dinner on April 9th beginning at 7:30 for drinks – dinner at 8:00. The location will be the same as last year Sauce at 131 Gough (a sort cab ride from Moscone). This is a great place – wonderful wine, good food at reasonable prices. We have the whole back room reserved (up to 40 people).
Please RSVP on the Identity Gang Wiki. If you can’t do that for some reason you can e-mail me kaliya *(At) Mac.com.

Interopping times 2 at RSA

Kaliya Young · March 22, 2008 · Leave a Comment

OSIS Interoperability Demonstrations
TUESDAY April 8th 11:00 AM – 6:00 PM
Moscone South, Mezzanine Level Purple Room 220
To be able to see this you need to get an expo pass. See below on how to get one.

OSIS User centric identity network interoperability between identity providers, card selectors, browsers and websites demonstrates how users can ‘click-in’ to sites via self-issued and managed information cards, or i-cards. Open ID, Higgins Identity Framework, Microsoft CardSpace, SAML, WSTrust, Kerberos and X.509 components interoperate within an identity layer from open-source parts.

I am really excited about this 3rd Interop – for one it is ALL Day not just an evening – I also heard they are going to have comfy chairs. To be able to see this you need to get an expo pass – one way to get it is to attend the other Interop Event.
This one is also exciting – put on by the Concordia project at RSA on Monday April 7th from 9am-12:30pm.

Registration is free of charge, and you must register for the workshop in order to attend the Concordia event, whether you’re an interop demo participant or not! Register for the workshop on the RSA registration site. Use the registration code 148CON. This will also give you a free expo pass that you can use to attend the tradeshow portion of the Conference Tuesday through Friday.

I will be attending both and I encourage everyone interested in the topic and tracking the evolving state of the technology to do so.

Data Sharing Workshop and 2nd Summit

Kaliya Young · March 9, 2008 · Leave a Comment

About a week ago I posted about the choice landscape we have for these events. No one seemed to have an opinion so we went with both and are having one event leaning more towards ‘the technical’ and another leaning more towards vendors with products and potential buyers.
The Data Sharing Workshop, April 18 – 19 at the SFSU, Downtown Campus.
The Data Sharing Summit, May 15, at the Computer History Museum. (immediately following the Internet Identity Workshop)
We received such a positive response to the Data Sharing Summit in September, 2007 and, given the ongoing emergence of different data sharing initiatives, such as dataportability.org, Social Networking Portability, the 1.0 release of the Higgins Framework, DiSO, MT activity feeds, etc. we decided that it was a good time to hold another summit.
Our purpose is to provide gathering spaces in which all parties can work together on the challenge of data sharing. We create the agenda the day it happens. It is about getting things done and figuring out the tough problems – there is no committee deciding who does or does not get to ‘present’ it is about breaking up and really diving in figuring out the solutions and building the consensus to get adoption.
Data Sharing Workshop Details
April 18-19, Friday-Saturday, SFSU Downtown Campus
We selected April 18th and 19th because it seemed like an ideal time to host this event, given that it falls in between RSA and Web 2.0 Expo. People who are the Bay Area from around the world will be able to participate in figuring out how to get data sharing to happen. Although the event will focus on technical aspects, it will also include social, legal and business issues related to data sharing. The space can accommodate up to 200 attendees.
This event is being co-presented by SFSU Institue for the Next Generation Internet

We decided to hold the event on Friday and Saturday to accommodate the needs of different attendees. If you are at a company that is focused on this work and you prefer not to work on weekends, you can attend Friday. Or if you are interested in the subject but are unable to attend due to work commitments, you can come on Saturday. Those who are highly dedicated can come to both days.
Data Sharing Summit 2 Details
May 15, Thursday, Computer History Museum, Mountain View, CA
This event will immediately follow the Sixth Internet Identity Workshop at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View CA. There will be a combined focus on technical work and on opportunities for vendors with solutions in this space to share and connect with potential adopters of Data Sharing tools.
You may want to arrive on the afternoon of May 14th to participate in Internet Identity Workshop activities relevant to DSS (such as the OSIS Interop). May 15th will be a long intensive day, ending around 5 or 6, in time for dinner. Because it is important to close the event together as a group, please make plans to be there all day. The space can hold up to 400 people.
If you are super into the topic of Data Sharing we highly recommend that you come to the [http://iiw.idcommons.net Internet Identity Workshop] that precedes it.
The Problems, Offerings and Solutions that we put forward at the start of the first DSS is quite informative. Proposed topics and Outcomes are also lay the ground work for these next two events.
If you are interested in sponsoring please contact Laurie Rae at sponsorship@datasharingsummit.com
Feel free to contact me if you have questions.

Data Sharing Summit 2 – questions to figure out

Kaliya Young · February 27, 2008 · Leave a Comment

So I am working hard to pull the details together for the 2nd Data Sharing Summit. This is not an easy task given it is a risk to make commitments to venues and vendors – to make it possible to host the event.
This is an option that would give more time to organize and dove tail nicely with related work in the identity community
OPTION 4 – have it begin Wednesday and continue Thursday May 14-15 immediately following the Internet Identity Workshop
There is also the possibility of having something near Web 2.0 Expo the weekend before seems to make more sense to people are not completely wiped out from a weekend of partying and conferencing.
One of the reasons for this is that I know people come from out of town to attend Web 2.0 expo and some for several weeks so that there will be people in town who would not otherwise come ‘just for this event’.
We currently have 2 venue/time/space options
1) in Downtown SF but only can have at maximum 120 people and only 3 breakout rooms beyond the main space – this would be for Friday and Saturday the 18th and 19th. We would be restricted tot use from 8-5 pm.
2) in Mountainview at the Computer History Museum – a beautiful space that we would have to pay for but could hold up to 500 people and would only be for Saturday the 19th. It could go from 8 am to 8 pm+ even. We could feed folks breakfast lunch and dinner along with a barista.
Either way we will be charging money for the event about $100 – and working on raising sponsorship money. I believe events should be funded both by the people who do attend AND by sponsors. This helps create balance and by paying money to come people make a commitment to ‘be there’ for the event and the organize can plan for their attendance.
I am trying to get a read on what will work best.
I am still asking Lucy to put in OpenID for commenting on my blog and she still can’t get it to work even in dialoguing with Pam about it. So if you want to chime in you need to email me kaliya (at) mac (dot) com.

The third option people have put forward it so have it on an ‘large’ tech companies campus and I have said that doesn’t work cause the topic is neutral – so this is not an option in my mind.

Online Community Unconference East

Kaliya Young · February 12, 2008 · 1 Comment

On February 21 I will be facilitating the Online Community Unconference East.
I think the topic of user-centric identity will definitely come up. Please feel free to join in this gathering for online community practitioners – managers, developers, business people, tool providers, investors – to discuss experience and strategies in the development and growth of online communities, and the use of social media. Those involved in online community development (and social software in general) share many common challenges: community strategy, community management, ROI, tool selection, marketing, business models, and legal issues (just to name a few). The best source of information on all of these challenges is other knowledgeable practitioners.
The Unconference leverages the unique format of Open Space. If you are unfamiliar with the concept of “Open Space”, the idea is to tap in to the collective knowledge of the attendees by having the Unconference attendees actually drive the agenda and session topics. Open Space is the perfect antidote to the prevailing “talking heads” conference model, because the sessions are truly in depth conversations. You will meet the people you need to talk to, and you will have the conversations you need to have!
Organizations attending include: allfacebook.com, Alliance to Save Energy, AOL, Business Week Digital, Changing The Present, Consumers Union, Cyworld, EchoDitto, Family Justice, Inc, Gartner, Grandparents.com, IBM, Mercy Corps, Patricia Seybold Group, Showtime Networks Inc, Socialtext, Texas Instruments, TV Guide Online. Zagat.com
The event is Febuary 21st and is going to be held at the Newman Conference Center. The price for the Unconference is $195, but I’ve included a discount code for $25 off below.
To register, please go to:
http://ocueast.eventbrite.com/
Enter discount code “kaliyaspeeps” for $25 off

DONE! The IC Working Groups 2007 Q4 Reports and January News

Kaliya Young · February 3, 2008 · Leave a Comment

This past week the Identity Commons Working Groups 2007 Q4 Reports and January News were published. I worked in my catalytic role to get all the Stewards of the 8 groups of IC to turn in their reports. There is also news from many of the soon to be IC working groups.
This is the post from the Identity Commons Blog. It is where you should subscribe to get updates from the different working groups at IC. They will be using it to post announcements and information about what they are up to. We have our next stewards call this Wednesday at 9am PST.

PDF of Identity Commons Working Group 2007 Q4 Report and January News
Introduction:
Identity Commons (IC)is a loosely connected community of Working Groups that are addressing the social, legal and technical issues that arise with the emerging identity layer of the internet. The purpose of Identity Commons is to support, facilitate, and promote the creation of an open identity layer for the Internet — one that maximizes control, convenience, and privacy for the individual while encouraging the development of healthy, interoperable communities.
A wide range of individuals from both large and small companies have been dialoguing and developing tools to make this vision a reality. This past year the community was formalized, forming a nonprofit corporation. Identity Commons has adopted a set of principals to ensure an open, inclusive, and bottoms-up operating structure. Each Working Group has a representative on the Stewards Council. Membership resides in the Working Groups – where the real work is happening. Each quarter Working Groups report on their activities. This was our first quarter of official operation with reporting Q4 2007. There is also news from groups in the process of joining Identity Commons included.
Contents:

Current Working Groups
Community & Events
Identity Gang
Internet Identity Workshop
Technology
OSIS (Open Source Identity System)
OpenID
Identity Schemas
Social Agreements and Policy
Identity Rights Agreements
XRI Org
ID Commons Operations
IC Collaborative Tools
In Process to Join Identity Commons:
Business Application

VRV (Vendor Relationship Management)

Open Source Code Projects for Identity Systems and Data Sharing
Higgins Project
Bandit Project
Pamela Project
Groups related to Standards
SAML Commons
XDI Commons
Newly Formed

Enterprise Positioning
Enterprise Identity Architects
Newbies 4 Newbies
Inclusive Initiatives
Id Futures
Id Media Review
You can find more background information about IC here and a moreindepth history here

Newbies 4 Newbies First CALL

Kaliya Young · January 28, 2008 · Leave a Comment

This past Internet Identity Workshop was great for a bunch of reasons – one was that we had this fabulous group of new people show up – who wanted to learn more and share how their experience could be better.
Currently, it takes initiative on the part of a new person to get up to speed. How do we provide resources to accelerate their efforts?
They formed a group called Newbies 4 Newbies that is sort of a club for new folks to help – new folks get oriented. They are going to develop and manage the Starting Points page – and ensure that it meets the needs of new folks. Within in a year folks will move on from being Newbies and others joining the community can take their place.
If you are a newbie to Identity (or some aspects of what we are doing this group is for you). Please feel free to join the call tomorrow at 1pm PST / 4 Eastern – here is the call in information and the agenda.
For those of you who would like to help newbies – They have come up with the concept of “Friendlies” those who have been in the community a while who wouldn’t mind helping the new folks get oriented to their particular area of expertise. If you would like to help out with this feel free to contact Cindy Spannhake cspannhake@switchbook.com or Dan Nelson dan@flexmls.com and let them know the area you wouldn’t mind helping out with.
They are also very conscious that people are quite busy getting stuff done – the goal is help you contribute some of the key knowledge/resouces and then provide it for new people – so it isn’t just stuck in all the brains/blogs of all the people who have been doing this a while.

Leading a Peer-to-Peer Session at RSA

Kaliya Young · January 28, 2008 · Leave a Comment

I was informed this weekend that my proposal for a peer-to-peer session at RSA was accepted.
User-Centric Identity and the Enterprise: Promise, Pitfalls and REALITY

This session will surface the issues holding back enterprise adoption of user-centric ID (OpenID, information cards, etc.). Is it a lack of perceived value? Is it the perceived immaturity of the technology? Is it the cost justification? Is it the perceived competition with federation or other enterprise projects already underway? What changes can be made to make them more consumable by the enterprise?
This will take place on Friday April 11 from 10:05 AM – 10:55 AM
The number of the session is: P2P-402A
If you are in the community and coming to RSA please sign up for this P2P session – should be fun.
There are some other user-centric related sessions happening at RSA:
Breaking the Identity Meta System.
Pamela Dingle
Wednesday, April 09 08:00 AM – RED ROOM 302
The user-centric identity community has been working together to prove identity metasystem interoperability for some time, but what happens when the intention is not to interoperate, but to defeat? This session will concentrate on research into abuse and error cases that component owners must be able to recover from gracefully in order to be robust and secure metasystem participants.
How Might OpenID Apply to an Enterprise?
by Yvonne Wilson and Rafat Alvi from SUN on
Tuesday, April 08 05:40 PM – RED ROOM 302
This session will explore applicability of OpenID to various types of enterprise activities. Considerations will be discussed such as security, trust, privacy, data needs and the extent to which OpenID might or might not meet the needs of certain situations.

After The Crash Tomorrow

Kaliya Young · January 22, 2008 · 1 Comment

Apparently the markets are going to crash tomorrow.

  • Washington Post
  • Financial Times

It should make for an interesting time at O’Reilly’s next conference Money:Tech – Where Web 2.0 meets Wall Street.
I have also been reading this week Fooled By Randomness. I very much enjoyed The Black Swan and would recommend both books.
The Crash is sort of depressing to think about – but so is the conventional money system that got us to this place in the first place. This weekend Raines shared this video about the Story of Stuff. Makes you think hard about the overall ecology of the system we are all living in.
Knowing that the economy was not doing so well I have been working with Chris Lindstrom on a conference that considers Money and value exchange in our economies.
It builds on a conference that Chris produced in 2004 about Local Currency (there are details about the topics covered in their Conference Report).
It will be an unconference about money. But not ‘regular money’ instead about these topics:

  • Local Living Economies
  • Complementary currencies
  • Micro credit
  • Time Banks
  • Social Entrepreneurship
  • Slow money
  • Monetary systems theory
  • Ecological accounting

We are going to have a special focus on digital tools and systems for mutual credit creation, value measurement and wealth acknowledgment.
Because it is about money – but not just ‘regular’ money – we are calling it the unMoney Convergence. (we haven’t even got our logo up yet but I thought I would announce it given the forthcoming events of tomorrow) It will be in Seattleon April 14-16 following the Green Festival.
The unMoney unConference would have been a silly name.

They gave me one free ticket.

Kaliya Young · January 16, 2008 · Leave a Comment

They gave me one complementary ticket to Friday’s event. Who ever pings me first can come for fee.

Two good Conferences Jan 26th

Kaliya Young · January 14, 2008 · Leave a Comment

There are two good conferences happening in the Bay Area on January 26th.
Technology in Wartime Conference is being put on by Computer Professional for Social Responsibility at Stanford.
The goal of this non-partisan conference will be to consider the ethical implications of wartime technologies and how these technologies are likely to affect civilization in years to come. Ultimately we want to engage a pressing question of our time: What should socially-responsible computer professionals do in a time of high tech warfare?
The Toll Roads? The Legal and Political Debate over Net Neutrality by the The University of San Francisco Intellectual Property Law Bulletin
Net Neutrality refers to free access to the Internet without discrimination based upon how often a user accesses the Internet or how much broadband capacity they utilize. Advocates for Net Neutrality believe that users are entitled to unlimited access in order to preserve current freedoms as well as to prevent broadband providers from abusing their power to block applications they do not favor or to discriminate between content providers. Critics of Net Neutrality and associated legislative proposals believe that Net Neutrality rules would reduce incentives to upgrade networks and launch next generation network services and, in turn, inhibit the most efficient access to the broadband network.
Should Internet Service Providers continue to drive the same “neutral” course, giving all search requests and other uses of the Net equal treatment? Absent legislation, will these ISP’s create Internet “toll roads,” giving preference to certain types of information? It is these types of questions that are at the heart of the debate on Net Neutrality.

Up for Air – Finally

Kaliya Young · December 14, 2007 · Leave a Comment

I have had very full days since the first of the month.

  • First I was preparing for IIW and then actually there producing and facilitating.
  • Then I headed north to Sacramento to participate in a training for two days (more about that later).
  • I headed to LA to watch the Canadian Water Polo Team play and visit with my best coach from when I was growing up.
  • I hung out with friends and did a site visit for the Cook-In that I helping to produce and facilitate in March.
  • Wednesday I was down at the Institute for the Future as an expert for a think tank thing for a specific client.
  • Yesturday was the BlogHer Holiday party that was more fun then I thought it would be.
  • Today I got my first Christmas Card in the mail – it was from the Burton Group.
  • I found this on Slashdot Lucas Film Christmas Cards – thought it would bring you all some cheer.

I am working on setting up a new home office and hope to settle down to write more here about IIW and Identity Commons in the coming weeks.

Monday isn't just for 'newbies'

Kaliya Young · November 29, 2007 · Leave a Comment

Just to clarify – monday at IIW is “not just for newbies”. All are welcome to the introductory track – I am sure you will learn something about the projects in the community and have a chance to ask questions about those one pagers that are all online.
At 4PM we are all together – the whole community – everyone to get IIW rolling. We have some good thought provoking activities planned. Please be there and join us for dinner.
If you are in an existing working group and have been to IIW before and you want to get some work done while folks are listening to the ‘laws of identity and such’ you are welcome to just let us know you want to have a meeting or add yourself to the wiki.

Giddy about IIW & Monday is Free

Kaliya Young · November 29, 2007 · Leave a Comment

I am Giddy with excitement about IIW. Really – I have been bouncing off the walls all day. Almost* all my ‘identity’ friends are coming together and some new friends are showing up to meet you all. New people I don’t know will be there and adding to the mix.
We are experimenting with a new way to do monday with our introductory track being lead and choreographed by Phil. Each of the working groups/ major projects will have one-pagers for everyone to get a clear picture of the different activities. (BTW you still have time to get your one pagers to me).
Monday’s Introductory Track is going to be Free for folks who want to ‘check it out’ to come by. If they want to stay for dinner they are welcome if they chip in. If they want to stay for the conference they can register for it.
Joseph has written a great post about ‘why’ IIW has been really valuable to him and Plaxo.
Sean Ammirati has a great post just posted on Read/Write Web highlights why user-centric identity is important and how it fits into some of the themes discussed on RWW.
I hope we do get ‘slammed’ because it would be great to have more people who really want to engage. As a producer I get really worried about this because we ordered food for 150 people. So I will take a deep breath and hope it all works out.
So…The MC ‘position’ for the Untalent Show is open. If you would be interested in doing this let me know (Eve Maler who has been the MC before is not going to be at this IIW). Prepare your talents’ it could be anything – really. We are a friendly bunch….You can also do hybrid creations – we often have a few verses from a popular song – reauthored to reflect the community’s unique perspective on things.
IIW is a Community event and there is basically “no staff” (There are some students who are there to help ‘extra’ but that is not staff.)
This year my goal is to actually have enough ‘space’ to attend 50% of sessions (I only really attended one last time). So we are going to have a volunteer sign up opportunity so many people can do a few small things to make our event go well. So look for this if you would like to help. ALSO each person taking responsibility and doing the little things like putting your lunch plate in the trash helps make our space nice.
Oh and this IIW we are going to do compostables. So all of our plates, knives, forks, clear cups for juice will go to compost. (The coffee cups are brought by Rich and as far as I know are not compostable)
If you want to BRING YOUR OWN COFFEE MUG you could be trash free for IIW.
I can’t wait – it is going to be great!
* Bob Blakley is not going to be at IIW – some important other thing he has to do for us all.

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